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Naturally Speaking 9.5 accuracy
Submitted by Sue on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 23:36.
I am using DNS 9.5 with Word 2007 and XP.
The accuracy level is not good-often 3 or 4 errors in one line. Some errors just keep happening. I have done the acccuracy training a number of times and added the words. this has helped but I would love to get the error level down.
Any clues?


Sue wrote: I am using DNS
I am using DNS 9.5 with Word 2007 and XP.
The accuracy level is not good-often 3 or 4 errors in one line. Some errors just keep happening. I have done the accuracy training a number of times and added the words. this has helped but I would love to get the error level down.
Any clues?
What microphone are you using and how does it hook into the computer (soundcard or USB or ?)? Are you in a noisy environment? If you use a laptop, accuracy can sometimes suffer if you are on the AC adaptor.
Those are starter questions I would think. Let us know!
You might also give this article a read to see if it helps: https://www.emicrophones.com/docdetails.asp?docume...
Microphone
I am using a good quality mike-USB The mike was recommended by a DNS long-time user. It is a desktop system in a quiet environment. I will check out the article-thanks heaps. I am a novice to this so not sure what info is needed-thanks for your patience.
Sue
Sue wrote: I am using a
I am using a good quality mike-USB The mike was recommended by a DNS long-time user. It is a desktop system in a quiet environment. I will check out the article-thanks heaps. I am a novice to this so not sure what info is needed-thanks for your patience.
Sue
Welcome to the system Sue. We are here to help you as much as we can. If you have questions after reading the article, feel free to ask more!
Tip: One thing I've noticed is that I have to be AWARE of what I'm saying and how I'm saying it. By this I mean I have to keep my enunciation better than it is during conversational speech. It's when I fall back to conversational speech that I start getting speakos (recognition errors).
You haven't given us much to
You haven't given us much to go on but I guess a review of some basic notions is an order.
First, we need to find out what kind of hardware you're using, especially your sound input system, like what kind of microphone you're using, the kind of soundcard you're using, etc. It would also help to know what kind of CPU and how much memory you've got, not that that is likely to be a problem but we need to check any way.
We also need to have some idea of your dictation style and whether or not you've read and absorbed the manual. By style I mean whether you enunciate clearly, speak in fairly long utterances, use a TV announcer-like speaking style, etc.
When you say you've added the words, does that mean you've given samples of your writing style for the program to analyze?
If that seems a bit vague please feel free to add as much detail as seems appropriate -- the more you tell us the better the feedback we can give.
Bruce
Answers to above
Soundcard is unknown-sorry where do I find it out. I listen to music etc and the system seems good qulaity
Memory is 2 GHz & 2 GB ram
I have worked on dictation style and initially gave samples of writing style to analyze but will re do this.
Does this help?
As an example The text read:
Part of his service in Nepal transporting goods to do that on various kinds of vechiles/trucks
but should have read
Part of his service involved transporting goods to Nui Dat on various kinds of vechiles/trucks
thanks
Sue
But What Microphone Are You Using?
Since you are using a USB microphone, your
soundcard probably isn't at issue but unfortunately you haven't told us what
microphone you're using. Using a good USB mic that was recommended by a DNS
long-time user doesn't necessarily qualify as a good microphone. For example, LabTech
desktop microphones
are far from satisfactory in our opinion. On the other hand, a Buddy
Desktop USB microphone would certainly make the list. Everyone is giving
you excellent advice but you might want to check to see if your microphone is
on our Microphone
Comparison Matrix list. If your microphone is not on our list, it doesn't
necessarily mean you have a bad microphone but it's definitely a red flag. Most
consumer grade microphones (available from places like Staples, CompUSA, Best
Buy etc.) are typically less than stellar.
Lunis
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&
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http://www.TheMicrophoneStore.com
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Do you ever correct Dragon
Do you ever correct Dragon so it learns?
Do you ever use the language and audio optimiser from the accuracy center?
Both are fundamental ways of improving Dragon's accuracy.
Describe your accent and method of dictation - again important areas to consider.
And of course PC specification....
Proper names
Dear Sue,
The main words I add to the vocabulary are proper names, abbreviated as I want them to be: "S. 3d St. W.," "Jean Valjean," and so on. I used GetWords/PutWords or Import and Export to move them from version to version of the program. Version 9.5 of NatSpeak learns quickly (sometimes I have to make one correction of a new entry), and it makes a major difference in my productivity.
Every once in a while I scout through the words I've added to see if I've injected a spelling error. If so, I delete the misspelled word and, if it matters, add it back correctly spelled.
Good luck.
Tom Trigg
tomtrigg wrote: Dear
Dear Sue,
The main words I add to the vocabulary are proper names, abbreviated as I want them to be: "S. 3d St. W.," "Jean Valjean," and so on.
How do you remember all the abbreviations
Quentin
Remembering abbreviations
I don't. I let the computer remember them, and I speak English. For instance, if I want to type a street name into an address and keep the post office happy (I use a lot of addresses in my work), I use the spoken form I've entered into vocabulary, "south third street west," and it types the written form I've entered, "S 3d ST W".
I use a couple of real (non-acronym) abbreviations, the kind I could forget, but I only use a few over and over again and I usually remember: "My home email address," "my downtown office address," and the like.
Sometimes I use a pattern repeatedly. One application expects abbreviations like SmithJ for John Smith. I add SmithJ as the written form and "John Smith abbreviated" as the spoken version.
Mostly what matters for me is teaching the computer names, since I use a lot of names and everyone wants their names spelled correctly. After adding a name, the computer gets it wrong the first time I use it and I correct it. It's right thereafter.
Obviously I carry these added words over from version to version so I don't have to redo everything annually. Works pretty well.
Tom Trigg
tomtrigg wrote: I don't. I
I don't. I let the computer remember them, and I speak English. For instance, if I want to type a street name into an address and keep the post office happy (I use a lot of addresses in my work), I use the spoken form I've entered into vocabulary, "south third street west," and it types the written form I've entered, "S 3d ST W".
I use a couple of real (non-acronym) abbreviations, the kind I could forget, but I only use a few over and over again and I usually remember: "My home email address," "my downtown office address," and the like.
Sometimes I use a pattern repeatedly. One application expects abbreviations like SmithJ for John Smith. I add SmithJ as the written form and "John Smith abbreviated" as the spoken version.
Mostly what matters for me is teaching the computer names, since I use a lot of names and everyone wants their names spelled correctly. After adding a name, the computer gets it wrong the first time I use it and I correct it. It's right thereafter.
Obviously I carry these added words over from version to version so I don't have to redo everything annually. Works pretty well.
Tom,
I do exactly the same using ViaVoice dictation macros. However most of the time, except for the macros I use constantly, I frequently have to go into the dictation macros to find out what the name of the shortcut is. I have in the region of 170 navigation macros, and I don't know how many dictation macros (I have never counted them), and I tried printing them out, having set them in alphabetical order, stuck them on a piece of cardboard, put them alongside the computer screen, but by the time I locate the macro I want, I would have dictated the name, postcode, etc. just as quickly.
We now have so many things to try and remember, that adding infrequently used short cuts to the computer in one's head can result in total overload followed by a crashing on the floor
What one really needs is a shortcut on the toolbar to dictation macros and another one for navigation macros, when you can then simply call the name, and the shortcut will appear, and by simply saying something like "enter" then the macro will appear on screen, or the relevant action will happen.
However having trained in names in VV, provided I can use the same pronunciation, it never has any problem. However something like Allahbachani would have a dictation macro named "the lunatic that runs Iran and thinks he owns the world", as this is easier to pronounce than Allahbachani (unless it is written down in front of you and you can pronounce it!)
Quentin
crivon1 wrote: I do exactly
I do exactly the same using ViaVoice dictation macros. However most of the time, except for the macros I use constantly, I frequently have to go into the dictation macros to find out what the name of the shortcut is. I have in the region of 170 navigation macros, and I don't know how many dictation macros (I have never counted them), and I tried printing them out, having set them in alphabetical order, stuck them on a piece of cardboard, put them alongside the computer screen, but by the time I locate the macro I want, I would have dictated the name, postcode, etc. just as quickly.
Quentin
Quentin,
Come on! Surely you're not saying VV doesn't have one of DNS' neatest tricks! Why waste time on a messy macro when you can add a phrase to the vocabulary using Written/Spoken form as Tom described?
Bruce
BruceCyr wrote:
Come on! Surely you're not saying VV doesn't have one of DNS' neatest tricks! Why waste time on a messy macro when you can add a phrase to the vocabulary using Written/Spoken form as Tom described?
I never thought of doing this, and although I have never done it that way, as an experiment, I tried it in VV and it works. Thanks Bruce. However it has to be a name that VV simply will not recognise as words within its vocabulary, but will recognise it as a phrase. For example, I trained "John Smith address" to type "31 Kilgobbin Heights" (a fictitious address in case you are thinking of writing to him
). It is still easier to do it as a dictation macro.
Quentin
crivon1 wrote: It is still
It is still easier to do it as a dictation macro.
Quentin
Quentin,
Sorry about that -- like so many other SR tricks of the trade, its a breeze in DNS
Bruce
BruceCyr wrote:
Sorry about that -- like so many other SR tricks of the trade, ....
What other tricks of the trade?
...its a breeze in DNS :-)
Is that where the gas went from the other thread ?
Quentin
crivon1 wrote: BruceCyr
Sorry about that -- like so many other SR tricks of the trade, ....
What other tricks of the trade?
...its a breeze in DNS :-)
Is that where the gas went from the other thread ?
Quentin
Let us note a memorable milepost has been set amidst the general stir of mirrors, smoke and flatulence: VV's most diehard proponent has tacitly accepted that DNS has at least one very useful capability that VV doesn't have!!
Bruce
BruceCyr wrote: VV's most
VV's most diehard proponent has tacitly accepted that DNS has at least one very useful capability that VV doesn't have!!
Not quite Correct! VV has the capability, but it appears to possibly be more awkward to create the shortcuts using the method under review than DNS in this regard. However macro creating in VV is simple compared to DNS, and creating macro dictation shortcuts in VV could not be easier.
Quentin
Quentin, You are
Quentin,
You are incorrigible -- I give you the best argument of which I'm capable, but you refuse salvation. So, metaphorically speaking of course, to hell with you
Bruce
BruceCyr wrote: VV's most
VV's most diehard proponent has tacitly accepted that DNS has at least one very useful capability that VV doesn't have!!
Not quite Correct! VV has the capability, but it appears to possibly be more awkward to create the shortcuts using the method under review than DNS in this regard. However macro creating in VV is simple compared to DNS, and creating macro dictation shortcuts in VV could not be easier.
Quentin